Intense Factory Racing Teases 4 Racers - [Update: Aaron Gwin Confirms He's No Longer on Intense]

Jan 9, 2024
by Sarah Moore  


Update: Todd Schumlick has confirmed that he and Aaron Gwin are no longer be sponsored by Intense Cycles and they are constructing a new team. Gwin has now shared a thank you to Intense for the past five years on social media. Schumlick said that he and Gwin will be together on a new team with additional riders and will have press release in near future.



Intense Factory Racing posted a teaser video on their Instagram today with the words, "The reports of my death were greatly exaggerated." Looking closer, we're able to see the images of four riders holding Intense frames. We're happy to hear the news that the team will be racing on the World Cup circuit after they announced last week that the current team that raced under the Intense Factory Racing banner last year will no longer be with Intense Cycles for 2024.

Anyone recognize these silhouettes? One thing for certain is that none of them look like Aaron Gwin who has been team owner for the past five years.

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Our best guess is that Aaron Gwin and Todd Schumlick are the ones that are moving on from the Intense Factory Racing and this is the rebirth of a new team under new leadership. We’ve reached out to Intense Cycles, Aaron Gwin, and Todd Schumlick for comment and will update if and when we get more info.

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265 Comments
  • 213 12
 New team is:
Dakotah Norton
Danny Hart
Brook Macdonald
Tinker Juarez

Reliable source.
  • 68 0
 Danny hart shaves his legs
  • 25 2
 @goranga: nah, that's Tink. can tell by the hair.
  • 2 1
 @goranga: I think most of the pros do
  • 4 6
 @savagelake: Tink races for Zeruno
  • 9 3
 Tinker is so cringy on his Instagram feeds to kick of 2024.
  • 1 0
 @saltanglr: there you go with verifiable facts again
  • 3 6
 @tinkerJuarez is racing for Zerouno
  • 1 0
 yep
  • 24 0
 My dollas are on Johnny Tomac, with Keith Bontrager as his lead mechanic.
  • 2 0
 Nooooooooo wayyyy
  • 1 2
 Maybe Suarez?
  • 3 1
 @shredddr: pretty sure Vital members already confirmed Suarez on Frameworks which means it'll be a Pinkbike rumor tomorrow.
  • 9 0
 Louise ferguson
  • 3 0
 @deadpool2e: Good spot, the hair
  • 3 0
 Someone must have seen what bike Danny is riding in NZ. BK said he knows there’s a deal in the works and which bike danny has at his house in NZ…
  • 3 0
 Danny was riding Nukeproof in NZ ....soo
  • 1 0
 @goranga: He maybe,
Secretly like to be XC racer.
  • 2 1
 None of your answers are correct. Sorry to say your source is wrong Wink
  • 1 0
 @liztwinbikemom: then how about sharing yours?
  • 176 0
 The last one is definitely my next door neighbour, Mark. I had no idea he even ride bikes.
  • 5 3
 This should have more upvotes
  • 137 0
 Wonder who the rear triangle sponsor will be? Maybe the Team is needing 2x Bike sponsors to cover todays cost of racing, ha.
  • 30 3
 They're probably just waiting for the rear triangles to come back from warrantee and found out they'll cost more than a complete frame.
  • 18 0
 @chrisfirth: The sponsorship only covers front triangles.
  • 6 1
 Dave Weagle, obviously. The more pivots, the higher the $$$.
  • 123 3
 Ah yes, the old pretending to be dead to get out of a committed relationship only to come back to life with a new partner uhh I mean racers and sponsorship.
  • 81 2
 Oh for goodness sakes! It's January 9th. Get on with the unveiling already. Sheesh. What is this nonsense???
  • 20 3
 It's called "marketing"... and since the actual UCI DH coverage is virtually non-existent, they need to milk exposure wherever they can get it these days. But yeah I agree, it's pretty stupid.
  • 28 0
 This is what happens when the industry (run by consultants and private equity douchebags) think that their audience and market are a bunch of airheads who would make a tiktok when they unbox their new grips.
  • 5 0
 @almacigatrailrider: I mean have you seen some of the youtubers? I'm not on the tik toks but I'm sure its out there too.
  • 56 0
 Is that Louise Ferguson?
  • 4 3
 I think Pinky might be in there too.

Or does he have team, I can’t remember.
  • 1 4
 @Roost66: as far as I know he's still on GT
  • 10 0
 @danielfloyd: There is no real GT. Pinky w/Dak and Dunne.
  • 2 0
 That's who I thought .
  • 1 0
 That's my guess
  • 1 1
 @pisgahgnar: yep, those three are the new team at least for the elite male on that team
  • 1 0
 If so then that'd be a smart move as the brand don't really seem to have much presence in the UK
  • 1 1
 I don't think so. Different hair.
  • 2 0
 I think you're right, that was my first reaction.
  • 1 0
 @Roost66: Ryan Pinkerton on Frameworks?
  • 1 0
 @animalrkent: that would be sicccc
  • 58 3
 Bottom right is definitely Levy.
  • 43 2
 Looks like 4 employees working at Costco, taking pics of the product on their lunch break.
  • 32 0
 Costco pays way better than most race teams. Throw in a free membership too? That's an attractive offer
  • 4 0
 @sjma: damn. True.
  • 3 7
flag watchtower (Jan 9, 2024 at 20:47) (Below Threshold)
 If they blanked out the frames I'd have thought it was 4 gang members.
  • 10 0
 Intense bikes will now come with a free rotisserie chicken.
  • 5 0
 @rrolly: I would be ok with just some free hotdogs
  • 2 4
 @watchtower: kinda racist bro
  • 3 2
 @shredddr: can you explain why that would be racist please, unless of course you're being sarcastic, in which case explain nothing.
  • 39 0
 Four riders for the price of one Gwin, plus left over for Tacos!
  • 37 0
 are we talking tacomas or the food?
  • 3 4
 @Vikikus: coffee spat out funny!
  • 1 0
 Where's Gwin!?
  • 5 2
 @stoker7: Gwin is no longer (on) intense
  • 28 1
 The lettuce and broccoli perm silhouettes lol... All jokes aside this looks like a great young team. Intense looks like they had a wicked machine coming together and it would be great to see them as regular contenders on the very top step.
  • 80 0
 team veggie tales racing
  • 9 1
 @adrennan: plus one for the veggie tales reference...
  • 2 0
 @adrennan: omg hahahahahha
  • 26 0
 Well, I might be the first person to say this but …

well done intense for offering 4 x riders the opportunity, whoever they are. With so much turbulence in the cycle industry you have made 4 x riders dreams a reality for another season.

Much applause and good luck for this season.
  • 28 1
 Only one I'm certain of is bottom right (Simple Jack)
  • 1 0
 Nooooo
  • 9 0
 This comment made my eyes rain.
  • 1 0
 Intense Flaming Dragon race team? There's something we can do get behind.
  • 28 5
 It's kind of getting lame how the industry is turning something like riders contracts with teams in to this strange thing of drama.....leave that shit to sports football (soccer) and reality TV.....just tell us where the riders we follow are going and that they're livelihoods are safe!
  • 11 3
 So leave the media attention and drama to arguably the biggest sport in the world?

Mountain bikers want their cake and eat it too

You have to create drama and stories to attract outside attention to grow.

Or

No drama and stories and it remain pure and has its pure funding too

Some things need to be sacrificed for the sport to remain
  • 10 0
 It obviously works. Look at all the comments here...
  • 17 0
  The truth is out there..
  • 10 1
 Thief
  • 6 0
 Ha! Very good. If ya know, ya know! Wink
  • 17 1
 Teasing four racers seems a bit mean.
  • 35 0
 Teasing them one at a time would be meaner!
  • 19 0
 Hate it when my wife does that to me
  • 4 0
 @mkul7r4: That makes one of us.
  • 14 1
 John, Paul, George and Ringo
  • 6 0
 bummer, would prefer Robert, Jimmy, and two Johns
  • 3 0
 I think it’s Mick, Keith, Ron, and Charlie.
  • 9 0
 Seems like the generational shift is underway in DH. Bad economy just accelerated it perhaps. Exciting to see brands give young racers a chance - isn’t that what we’re always bumbling on about here how it’s so hard and unfair for younger people. Then the old guys who have not been on the box get cut and we’re still mad?
  • 9 0
 forgive my ignorance but, Didn't Gwinner buy into Intense bikes or the race team or........?
  • 9 0
 This the same Intense that just killed their factory racing team?
  • 4 0
 RIght!? The End of Intense Factory Racing Officially Announced - Jan 2, 2024
by Sarah Moore

So they are just teasing them with the prospect of no race team?
  • 2 6
flag BiNARYBiKE FL (Jan 9, 2024 at 17:06) (Below Threshold)
 You guys don't understand. Intense Factory Racing is its own entity, and as an entity it is done (for now). That has nothing to do with whether Intense bikes will have a team of people racing on their bikes.
  • 10 0
 @BiNARYBiKE: this is literally an announcement from Intense Factory Racing. The same Intense Factory Racing that announced it was done last week. Same Instagram account.
  • 2 1
 @gally-nh: right. I saw the confusion right after I made my post. Looking at their previous instagram, IFR says they will announce their new team shortly, but it also says they won't be on Intense bikes. So it is confusing. Whether what was "IFR" is becoming a new team with a new name and new bikes and Intense owns the IFR name and just announced this new team or whatever... it is pretty convoluted.
  • 3 0
 @BiNARYBiKE: dude the post literally says intense factory racing is back from the dead.
  • 2 2
 @Struggleteam: cool. So are you in a position to explain what that means? Is it the same riders? With the same owners? Or is it something new but using the same name? I can’t tell.
  • 1 1
 Intense probably owns the trademark on “Intense Factory Racing and Similar Format” so when the contract with AG ended he handed back the keys to social media account, so to speak.

I’m sure there is a tremendous amount of manufacturer/brand/athlete variation in sponsorship and contracts. Intense likely paid AG a huge sum, who distributed that among Todd and other athletes on the team. When the contract wasn’t renewed Intense likely retained the right of first refusal for other athletes on the team. Dak might have ended up with a bigger paycheck, and AG loves lifting up his teammates so he was probably cool with that.
  • 11 1
 @BiNARYBiKE: Intense Factory Racing was run by Intense Bikes when it was Dean, Jack and Charlie.
The name was then used by the team owned by Aaron Gwin and run by Todd Schumlick with Intense sponsorship. That agreement has now ended and Intense Bikes is now running Intense Factory Racing again.
  • 2 0
 @JamesR2026: Thanks that all makes senes. For some reason I had it in my head that Aaron invested in the bike brand itself, not just the team. Curious to see what happens next.
  • 8 3
 I think intense needs more younger riders with a larger social media following to market their brand. Even if they don’t win World Cups, they just need to sell bikes. Best of luck. I’m still an Gwin supporter. I hope he races next year.
  • 5 0
 Two of these are def juniors, and if one of them is who I think it is, he's coming into 2nd year junior and has a pretty solid social media following on the Gram
  • 1 0
 @mustang-sally: are all 4 of them Brits?
  • 1 0
 @Maxcommencemal: I think 3 are...
  • 2 0
 @Maxcommencemal: no...#1 is our buddy! Cali boy...super stoked for him!
  • 18 12
 This teasing is so childish, just tell us who it is, supposed to be a professional sport, you don’t see teams of other sports teasing. Time to grow up, this is not going to be a thing
  • 3 1
 But we all "engaged" and when the real announcement comes out, we'll engage again...
  • 3 0
 @korev: My engagement contract has terminated
  • 5 0
 randy Lawrence said on the gypsy tales podcast that Ryder is on intense, so i think white guy is him.
  • 3 0
 I'd lock in top left as Ryder...
  • 1 0
 @onemanarmy: Hair looks alot like Ryder's, esp with hat! But he does look a little taller and thicker in this picture. Kid is a stud.
  • 6 0
 I hope he gets along with their new team mechanic, Fyxer.
  • 2 0
 Ryder is wearing a Intense factory racing t-shirt on his Instagram, so not really hiding it
  • 1 0
 @peebeejay: Posted 7 weeks ago but same shoes. Pretty sure its him
  • 1 0
 @peebeejay: He's been supported by them for awhile.
  • 3 1
 I was half right I guess. I say, either AG steps down as a racer and becomes a full time team manager and windrock manager.
And he’ll strive with a goal to build a UCI World Cup worth race track at Windrock.

And idk but the 1st guy looks like Seth, 2nd Dakota
  • 1 0
 Do not forget its tv commenter career!
  • 2 0
 @fautquecaswing: I actually forgot about that. His commentary is arguably the highlight of every race.
  • 2 0
 Aaron keeps doing exactly what he has been doing on the same team (that he owns) with a different frame sponsor.
Dak has signed with a new team.
  • 6 0
 Top right is Brage Vestavik.
  • 2 0
 I could really see Gwin on a commencal. Was surprised to see a certain talented frenchy move to canyon this year. We all know the owner of that brand (commencal) is nearly endless in his passion and support for the sport. Gwin has complimented that bike in select quotes over the years as they took on the intense project. Not that they need anymore riders but I can see a 1-3 year race program including these frames if not the other options mentioned. Would be killer to see the old (fast) guard all on new bikes battle the current (fast) guard on their existing bikes.
  • 8 3
 Wonder if Gwin will retire from full time racing to focus on Windrock.
  • 13 0
 Gwinrock
  • 7 0
 I was out there riding last week. He’s got big plans in the mix for that place.
  • 3 0
 @Struggleteam: I hope he cuts in some sick tracks for the DHSE race this summer!!
  • 7 1
 @RevedOut: Well he’s got another 500+ acres to play with that is apparently steeper than the existing side. It is the right side as you approach the mountain. Hard to imagine because the existing trails are steep! They said the plan was to mellow out the existing trails on the existing side and build new gnarly trails on the new side. They also plan to extend the shuttle road up closer to the top. Right now it stops mid way at the end of asphalt but you can private shuttle to the top and do windmill top to bottom. They also have a new 2500 sq ft shop down below the general store.
  • 12 1
 Gwin on Frameworks.
  • 1 0
 @Struggleteam: that all sounds great to me! Wish I was closer but will visit
  • 2 0
 @BikesBoatsNJeeps: had this thought as well. Neko was flying out to ride with whoever the new guy (or gal) is. Glad Frameworks is getting the support to grow in this tough climate.
  • 2 0
 @bikerdre: the park in its current form is really awesome. Super low key vibe and really good trails. It’s a dh bike bike park though. Place is gnarly and the blue trails would be black most other places. Building more beginner friendly trails will be good for business for sure. The windmill trail top to bottom takes neko nine minutes and it’s a steep trail. Loads of potential if they build more from the top down.
  • 1 0
 @SangamonTaylor: likely not again because he lives in Tennessee now.

Also Framesworks has already got a team manager in Wiley, so Schumlick wouldn’t have a position on Frameworks.

Plus AG is a legit podium contender and still worth more than the passion project paycheck.
  • 1 0
 @Struggleteam: thanks for sharing! I've actually been there like 3 years ago, so I can confirm your assessment. It really is gnarly, and that's coming from someone who rides Mountain Creek (rock city haha). Windrock, like Creek, could certainly benefit from mellower trails, I agree. Look forward to visiting when some new stuff gets opened up!
  • 3 1
 With all the technology they have now, I would have gone a bit more creative with the head colors. Or at least in proper prototype fashion, it should have been a checker pattern. Black is typically the finished product.
  • 1 0
 Black is definitely finished here..
  • 2 0
 The people should have been Intense paint schemes and the frames silhouette.
  • 2 0
 the close up of an eyeball was better, albeit marginally
  • 5 1
 none of these people are dakotah look to the green website forums for more answers
  • 2 0
 Teaser.... No, the season is a while away and they will just tell us in due course. Teasers are the next worst thing to YouTube adverts!
  • 8 4
 Blackface. In 2024. Shame on you Intense cycles
  • 2 2
 Looks like Intense may have done similar to specialized. This team looks like a GEN S team to me with MS Intense being the big guns. Gavin Tomlinson or Henry Sherry top left, Lou Ferguson top right, Tegan Cruz bottom left and bottom right Brock Hawes are my guess
  • 3 0
 Do they just get a front end? Fruitless deal mkay? All the action is in the rear end.
  • 2 0
 Peekaboo was fun back when we knew we’d have a sport to watch in June. Nowadays, this kind of marketing is just tone deaf.
  • 3 0
 The bottom ones Frotha, please be Frotha, making Intense a fun intense brand again
  • 3 0
 "sadly, yes, I was killed .... but I lived!"
  • 3 1
 Type right is Kenyon. The whole team looks like they are probably pretty young.
  • 7 0
 Im going with Lou Ferguson as others are suggesting. They didn’t do a good job of blacking her hair out near the frame.
  • 3 0
 Top right is Lou Ferguson for sure. There's two juniors on there
  • 3 0
 @mustang-sally: Came back to acknowledge that I was indeed wrong. Kenyon just posted a video on instagram of her riding a Session.
  • 1 0
 @lyfcycles: all good man....I too saw that yesterday. She's done another this afternoon.
  • 3 0
 Lou Ferguson and not sue on the rest.
  • 3 0
 Well I sure hope they get the rear triangles to those frames too
  • 3 0
 Bottom left is Edgar, that's the only information i have.
  • 1 0
 .....on a siiiick one
  • 3 0
 On no what’s he gwinna do now ?
  • 3 0
 Riders, use sunscreen please
  • 3 0
 Isn't gwinn part owner of intense
  • 1 0
 i'm curious about that one too.
  • 1 0
 He may not be sponsored by Intense but still have equity. Also possible he divested/got bought out.

Same may be true for any sponsors he's had over the years; at least that's how I've read into his interviews. Replacing salary with equity given his role in deveolpment and marketing probably gave him a lot of little investures to toy with over the last 10 years.
  • 1 0
 @bigwheels87: and sometimes investments don't work out, AG strikes me as a guy who knows when to fold his hand (if that's what's happened here)
  • 1 0
 @chakaping: maybe...equity can also be compensated without a buy-in. so it's possible he doesn't have "anything" to lose holding onto Intense equity until he either sees it as a good loss to offset other income or actually grows into something he can leverage or cash-out from with a profit.
  • 1 0
 No, he was owner of the race team, which would have been a separate business entity.
  • 3 0
 Little Rascals. That last one is Alfalfa
  • 2 0
 Maybe Gwin and Dak start a new team with Frameworks Bikes? That would be sick!
  • 3 0
 It's Reggie Miller for sure.
  • 2 0
 North American (Development ) Gravity Team for new largely US based DH series ?
  • 2 0
 Just heard from a reliable source that intense factory racing is looking for a frame sponsor for 2024 .
  • 2 0
 Aaron will look resplendent in “Dentists Turquoise” again.
A fine match, indeed.
  • 3 1
 What Intense is Gwinning on here?
  • 3 0
 These are AI bots!
  • 4 1
 I see an afro!
  • 4 12
flag onemanarmy FL (Jan 9, 2024 at 14:10) (Below Threshold)
 And it's FRO... AFRO could be cultural misappropriation. Sheesh. We do not know who's under those scribbles.
  • 5 1
 @onemanarmy: I needed a good chuckle. Thank you :⁠-⁠)
  • 2 1
 @KingPooPing: shoulda seen what I wrote before that. Lol
  • 2 0
 Ferguson, Dante Silva, Ryder Lawrence?
  • 3 0
 Gwindicate confirmed
  • 2 0
 Isn't Aaron a Co-Owner of Intense Cycles?
  • 3 0
 Gwin --> Yeti
  • 1 0
 Gwin with Yeti or Frameworks with Neko
  • 2 0
 Seth Sherlock Louise Ferguson Dante Silva Ryan Pinkerton
  • 2 0
 No, yes, no, no
  • 2 0
 Ryder Lawrence bottom right
  • 2 0
 Top left
  • 1 0
 didn't aaron invest in Intense? did they buy him out? forgive the debt? i dont get it.
  • 1 0
 If you have been paying attention to the Jrs. in USA DH - you will know exactly who the first kid is! Super stoked for him!
  • 1 0
 Haven't we dunne this already
  • 2 1
 Came here for the Costco and Kirkland comments and was disappointed...
  • 2 0
 Imagine how many affordable and surprisingly good breakfast sausages the team will be able to have at the races.
  • 1 0
 Who's the broccoli hair zoomer on the bottom-left?
  • 1 0
 Gwin to Frameworks, unlikely but would be Very Cool.
  • 2 0
 justin trudeau?
  • 2 1
 Der Wolf und die drei kleinen Schweinen
  • 1 0
 First one looks like a Session
  • 1 0
 I thought gwin owned the the race team??
  • 5 0
 Gwinn owns "A" race team, which is essentially an LLC (Gwin is the BEST LLC) that does business under whatever name it wants (or has sub-companies that do the same).

In the case of IFR, Intense granted him that DBA (more or less) and he operated his LLC under it. Meaning Intense paid the LLC and the LLC operated a race team/business with the proceeds and they called themselves IFR while doing so.

But it's likely Intense owns the IFR trademark and when the contract with Gwin's LLC ended, so too did his right to DBA under IFR.
  • 5 0
 @bigwheels87: Holy acronyms
  • 4 0
 @bigwheels87:
That’s cleared that up then
  • 2 0
 @Raymansd1: DBA = "Doing Business As"
  • 1 0
 Top left looks like Blenki in the shoulders
  • 1 0
 Looks like there is one women in there
  • 3 1
 #4 clearly a lefty
  • 2 0
 Ryder Lawrence?
  • 1 0
 Fcking ISIS and their hostages
  • 1 0
 Can confirm they are all Caucasian
  • 2 0
 its me im busted
  • 3 3
 Norton, Ferguson, Breeden, Pinkerton ?
  • 7 2
 Breeden is black now? That would be the big news.
  • 3 1
 First one is Seth Sherlock for sure. Last one I’m not sure. I reckon dak is gooonnnee
  • 4 0
 No, yes, yes, no
  • 2 0
 Number three is Breeden's hair for sure?
  • 6 6
 Oooo big secrets, like we are bothered , bit weird
  • 2 3
 So, where is Gwin going? Still wonder if the VPP wasn't producing results for him.
  • 8 1
 I thought the new frames weren't vpp at all?
  • 4 1
 @adrennan: They aren't
  • 2 5
 @gnarnaimo: They are, but not using the VPP name. They are calling it JS Tuned Link. Intense's suspension platform is still very similar to Santa Cruz suspension platform. More efficient pedaling, but not the most active suspension platform.

I have had 5 intense bikes and still riding one right now.

intensecycles.com/pages/jstunedsuspension
www.santacruzbicycles.com/en-US/tech/vpp-suspension
  • 3 1
 @tacklingdummy: nope. Not VPP. Many articles and podcasts talked about changing suspension platforms.
  • 1 2
 @RCederholm: Both Santa Cruz and Intense have been using similar VPP suspension platform. Intense has been licensing the VPP suspension platform as long as I can remember. Look at the new Intense Tracer. It is very much like the Nomad suspension platform. Intense follows Santa Cruz bikes. Both Santa Cruz and Intense have tweaked the VPP over the years, but it still is similar suspension platform and ride characteristics.

Show me links that say otherwise.
  • 2 1
 @tacklingdummy: I think that they are talking about just the dh bike, not the other bikes. The other bikes are vpp. Dh looks Horst link.
  • 2 1
 @tacklingdummy: the DH bike is a 6 bar. you can see the links if you can see the bike.
  • 2 1
 @tacklingdummy: correct. We are talking about the new M1 bike as this is the bike they will be riding for the DH season, which is not VPP. Other bikes are VPP. I have a Primer and very familiar with their models
  • 1 4
 @RCederholm: Gwin never raced on the M1. He raced on the M29. The M29 still looks very VPP-esque because of the lower linkage that connects the front triangle to the rear triangle.
  • 1 0
 @tacklingdummy: VPP patent lapsed a few years ago so no one has to license it or call it VPP any more.
Similar story with the Horst Link/FSR patent lapsing a few years ago.
  • 2 4
 @JamesR2026: They don't have to call it VPP for it still to be VPP. Lol. Perhaps that is why Intense calls it the JS Tuned suspension now. Wink
  • 1 3
 @gnarnaimo: I'm talking about the bikes that Gwin raced on. Refer to original comment.
  • 2 1
 @tacklingdummy: The m279 is clearly not a VPP.
  • 4 1
 @tacklingdummy: Have you not been paying attention to WC racing for a couple years? There have been multiple stories about IFR’s bike development. Maybe you’re just trolling.

www.pinkbike.com/u/intensecyclesusa/blog/bike-check-aaron-gwins-prototype-intense-m279-hp6-downhill-bike.html

m.pinkbike.com/news/spotted-a-closer-look-at-the-new-intense-prototype-dh-bike.html

m.pinkbike.com/news/spotted-another-new-intense-prototype-dh-bike.html

Gwin’s bike at the Lenzerheide 2023 World Cup.

m.pinkbike.com/photo/24929302
  • 3 1
 @MarshallWillanholly: Thanks for jumping in and taking the time to find some articles that point to the development/prototype process. The basic gist is Gwin started with the M29, then created some new rear triangle/linkage to run a 27.5 wheel in the back of the M29. Then abandoned that and worked to create a new M279 bike (with VPP), then abandoned the VPP design in 2022 with the prototype that had a huge soup spoon at the bottom of the downtube (which they did well on), and then introduced what would become the M1 model in early 2023. Gwin raced on that in a few non-UCI races and was set to race on it this year until his accident in the first UCI race. Dak did well on it as did some of the other riders it seems.
  • 1 4
 @marshallwillianholly Ok. The later DH bikes are not VPP. Second article has four bar design. That is all you needed to post. Y

But again if you look at the JS Tuned webpage it does show a 3-Link design referring to their DH bike which is the older design. Also on that webpage they describe all their bikes with all travels with the same JS Tuned design which is clearly VPP just named as JS Tuned.

You should read these pages.

Intense JS Tuned

intensecycles.com/pages/jstunedsuspension

Santa Cruz VPP

www.santacruzbicycles.com/en-US/tech/vpp-suspension
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 @tacklingdummy: the point is he didn't leave because of vpp since the bikes were no longer vpp as you suggested. we all know intense was making vpp dh frames at one point in time.
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 @adrennan: Was going to buy a bike, but now I'm not. This discussion made me not want to buy one.
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 top left has gotta be Cam McCaul.
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 First one ist Seth Sherlock
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 Tyler Ervin, Dante Silva!
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 Ooooooftt
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 Wgaf?
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 Frameworks!
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 1st Picture is Seth
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 Is one of them wearing a niqab?
Muslimas seem to be almost completely absent from mountainbiking, so that would be great news.
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 Is it important that we try to have more people from certain religions "in" mountain biking? That seems really weird to me, and I'm a religious person. Smile
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 @BiNARYBiKE: intotheeverflow just said, “it would be great” to have more Muslims. He didn’t call for affirmative action or anything. Everything is going to be O.K.
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 It would be a great reason for a new DH bike from Sunn(i).
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 @commental: that pun was shiite
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 @BiNARYBiKE: I agree that would be pretty weird.
About as weird as thinking one of them is wearing a niqab.
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 @Maxcommencemal: Yes, after seeing yours I feel a bit of a burqa now
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 Who cares? Go ride.
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 Put Gwin and Dak on Frameworks along side Neko and Asa and watch them cook
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 And who's gonna pay for that?
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 Is Dak the first one?
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 Dak gonna be on a Mondraker.
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 @Struggleteam: No, not according to that podcast.
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 @Struggleteam: why would someone down vote this when this is what is happening?
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 @Roost66: which podcast? I was out at windrock last week and all those boys were saying he was committed to mondraker. Only decent offer he had is what they said. However with intense coming back from the dead less a very expensive ginger, maybe he is sticking around?
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 @Struggleteam: The b-practice one or whatever, the one he is seemingly always on. He hinted MS but said rumors of him leaving intense frames were false.
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 @Roost66: Gotcha I guess we’ll see. The windrock crew sounded very confident but things change…especially this season. The source was very credible fwiw.
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 @Struggleteam: things change, but Dak seems to love that new Intense bike.
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 @Roost66: yes but he also needs a
Pay check. Pretty sloppy of intense to disband the team and then slap it back together. Doesn’t really inspire confidence.
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 @stunnanumma1: look, the annoying guy from Vital is here too!
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 @Struggleteam: Intense just seems to be changing management, from AG and that Todd guy to MS(?).
The "disbanding and putting back together" is just the press releases.
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 @iiman: Why won't anyone listen to me? Everyone listen to me!
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 @chakaping: Yes but they put out a press release that the intense factory racing team was done about a week ago. They probably shouldn't have done that press release as the team is back with the same name and different management. Looked a bit shaky and if my potential employer did that, I'd be nervous.
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 YT did something similar to this a few years back with the YT Mob. Agree that it is confusing but seems to be something common in this world.
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